tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027191706980748713.post4380420929337024086..comments2023-09-29T18:37:14.377+10:00Comments on Eight Acres: Permaculture - Use edges and value the marginalUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027191706980748713.post-37846752434836053092013-11-14T06:28:09.776+10:002013-11-14T06:28:09.776+10:00great example, thanks!great example, thanks!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12874273438983052621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027191706980748713.post-65980786656310377642013-11-14T06:26:40.814+10:002013-11-14T06:26:40.814+10:00Yes, our land is marginal too, it has too much for...Yes, our land is marginal too, it has too much forest to be of value to other farmers, but we were looking for that. Often if we value the marginal, we get something for cheap because its not valued by others!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12874273438983052621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027191706980748713.post-41489575606578698322013-11-14T06:24:26.893+10:002013-11-14T06:24:26.893+10:00Thanks for sharing your experience Chris! I have ...Thanks for sharing your experience Chris! I have some pigeon pea seeds and I haven't been exactly sure what to do with then, so you've given me some ideas there. I love your interpretation of edge. There's so many ways to look at these principles! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12874273438983052621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027191706980748713.post-22222678973611072412013-11-14T06:19:51.784+10:002013-11-14T06:19:51.784+10:00Great example, thanks Kim, I didn't know you c...Great example, thanks Kim, I didn't know you could feed olive leaves to animals, and sounds like they are perfect for your conditions. I think the yabbi thing takes a long time, it was just an observation of our neighbour when our dam wall busted, that maybe it was a) badly compacted to start with and b) weakened by a yabbi tunnel, but its at least 20 years old, so it could have been anything.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12874273438983052621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027191706980748713.post-86863090368110861012013-11-12T13:11:33.228+10:002013-11-12T13:11:33.228+10:00The idea that I have permaculture pots still sound...The idea that I have permaculture pots still sounds funny, but I do, (well I hope I do) that sit in an otherwise unused tiny concrete space. definitely marginal and on the edge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027191706980748713.post-89174406949468242612013-11-11T11:05:04.403+10:002013-11-11T11:05:04.403+10:00Our farm itself is on marginal land, so of little ...Our farm itself is on marginal land, so of little value to anyone else. But organic matter added to the soil fixes most ills over time. the advantage of our farm is that it is peri urban. Our mandala gardens emphasises the edge with circular garden beds.Our windbreaks provide an edge to the unproductive land surrounding us and our very productive piece of land.purplepearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17599216333749480560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027191706980748713.post-86537014330595138962013-11-11T08:15:39.249+10:002013-11-11T08:15:39.249+10:00For me, the greatest edge we could be contemplatin...For me, the greatest edge we could be contemplating on our property is the crossover between flood and drought. These two completely contrasting system do have an overlap, most assuredly on the edges. We have been looking for species of plants which can survive these two extremes. In terms of permaculture plants, the humble pigeon pea has been a literal lifesaver.<br /><br />The wallabies have been living off the leafs of the pigeon pea treas, over the very long and dry winter/spring period this year. The grass was cooked under the heat and with no water, there was no nutritional value in the grass. They don't normally graze our pigeon pea trees unless they're absolutely desperate. I notice they've been leaving lovely fertility nuggets (poo) around the place as thank you. As we don't have moving livestock of our own, so we appreciate the value they add.<br /><br />This is why we find the pigeon pea trees a fertility magnet. Where we plant them, every living thing seems to radiate around them. They also throw a nice amount of shade without being too shady, so evaporation is less underneath their branches. Great in a drought.<br /><br />Another interesting crossover for us, has been learning the benefits of hard and soft scaping in the landscape. That is, the hard scaping of the earth and the soft scaping of the plants which grow on the edges. We have been developing small ponds around the property and where we plant pigeon peas on the edges, the birds come. They love the branches as security after having a drink and quick dip in the ponds. They leave their fertility on the edges where it can be transferred down the property with the next downpour.<br /><br />Because we have such extremes in our climate here, we really value the edges and those organisms which can link up between them. I imagine a great edge for you to contemplate on Cheslyn Rise, is that cow fodder which can grow naturally without your attention, but will see them through and extended dry period. You could even grow these plants on contour, so it spreads fertility down the slopes to improve your pasture. On our dry continent with even greater climate extremes, open paddocks are pretty useless. They really need strips of tree and shrub corridoors on contour. The grass on thee edges of these foliage bands will be the crossover between flood and drought.<br /><br />Anyway very interesting subject. We're always thinking about these things.Chris https://www.blogger.com/profile/13715819899708384147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027191706980748713.post-65390767709090604802013-11-11T07:41:33.313+10:002013-11-11T07:41:33.313+10:00Sounds like you are really living life on the edge...Sounds like you are really living life on the edge. I have been thinking alot about the edges of my garden yard lately if that fits in . My aim is to plant an olive tree hedge around the edges to create a more enclosed naturefriendly area around the garden that encourages creatures to feel safe and become part of the garden eco system. We have just discovered after planting an olive tree in unbearable heat and it not being affected by the weather at all that this is the perfect tree for this job plus we can feed the leaves as fodder to the sheep and pick the olives.Our next step is to integrate tagaste into this edge as well.<br />We have one yabby dam which we love . Our son tranferred about 20 yabbies into it and they haven't affected the wall after 3 years.We are almost at the point where we could have yabbies for lunch.Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09958193502828236814noreply@blogger.com